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fossilesque@mander.xyzM to Science Memes@mander.xyzEnglish · 9 hours ago

"Science isn't political!"

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"Science isn't political!"

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fossilesque@mander.xyzM to Science Memes@mander.xyzEnglish · 9 hours ago
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  • psycho_driver@lemmy.world
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    Sounds legit. Where do I sign up for my glyphosate injections?

  • GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world
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    Someone should.

  • Sickos [they/them, it/its]@hexbear.net
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    Only wearing crop tops to help the little greenhouse in my belly

  • favoredponcho@lemmy.zip
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    Bacteria is not in the kingdom plantae.

    • _stranger_@lemmy.world
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      Your stomach micro biome is plants.

      • favoredponcho@lemmy.zip
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        That’s interesting. I wonder where the sunlight gets in to my stomach for all those plants to photosynthesize.

        • johsny@lemmy.world
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          Rfk seems to think the sun shines out his asshole.

        • MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca
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          You eat it, duh!

  • yesman@lemmy.world
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    Of course science is political. Knowledge is power and all power systems are political.

    But ignoring philosophy, Science is a charity. By in large they must beg for their money. You don’t suppose that the people providing the money have any influence?

    And I’m not talking about junk science, biased studies, or even fraud. A perfectly run study may still be political simply because it was chosen for funding over something else.

    • fossilesque@mander.xyzOPM
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      It’s a little more complex than that. Some things:

      • https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/lsereviewofbooks/2021/09/02/book-review-dark-academia-how-universities-die-by-peter-fleming/
      • https://massivesci.com/articles/chaos-in-the-brickyard-comic-matteo-farinella/

      It’s a structural problem, but still the same problem plaguing the rest of society at the moment.

  • infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net
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    Everything is political, and there has never been a time that proves that better than now.

  • Tattorack@lemmy.world
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    Science is only political because scientists have to continuously convince politicians reality exists.

    It’s frustrating that something like climate change is even a political discussion at all. Don’t Look Up captured that frustration really well.

    • Tiresia@slrpnk.net
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      Convincing people your interpretation of reality exists is literally all that politics is.

      Unfortunately, despite being correct, science is also an interpretation of reality.

      • Grail@multiverse.soulism.net
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        I think we need politics to go beyond one reality, and embrace a subjective multiverse where people can perceive what they want to perceive.

        • explodicle@sh.itjust.works
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          Cool cool cool so the climate is pretty fucked and now the way people have lived for millennia will cease to be possible. But at least we were open minded about delusion.

        • Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          If only the idiots could just piss off to their own multiverse of idiocy and leave the rest of us alone

          • anomnom@sh.itjust.works
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            That’s called, Texas and also Florida we should let them secede.

    • fossilesque@mander.xyzOPM
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      You can invent a vaccine, but getting people to take it is a different matter entirely and not just because of politicians.

      • starlinguk@lemmy.world
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        Andrew Wakefield managed to fuck up people’s attitude towards vaccines quite well without politics.

        • fossilesque@mander.xyzOPM
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          Inserting things under people’s skin just freaks people out in general. There are so many reasons.

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      They also have to continually convince politicians and other politically minded people to give them money, and risk having it taken away if their results are politically inconvenient.

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    doesn’t harm organic tissue

    Which is totally why Bayer has settled their lawsuit for several billions of dollars over claims that it causes lymphoma.

    Edit: also, plants are organic tissue.

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      Also, the stomach’s microbiome isn’t plants…

  • Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world
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    Your stomach microbiome is plants

    Which is why I spend a solid 3 hours a day facing the sun with my mouth held wide open. Gotta let my tummy plants photosynthesize somehow.

    • Canonical_Warlock@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      You say that as a joke but I’m pretty sure this clown is also one of the quacks who regularly talked about the “health benefits” of butthole tanning.

      • The Bard in Green@lemmy.starlightkel.xyz
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        I once saw him (in person) give a drunken, sloppy, rambling speech to a bunch of high schoolers back in 1999. Calling him a clown is an insult to clowns.

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    Ah yes, he’s on the show with the very tall and smart scientist Dr Rogan /s

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    I can’t tell if this is supposed to be for or against glyphosate?

    • fossilesque@mander.xyzOPM
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      Depends who is making money.

    • kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world
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      He seems to be… pro-celiac?

      • RamenJunkie@midwest.social
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        Real red blooded manly Americans only eat the rawest red meat directly from the carcas and have no need to worry about celiac disease like some girly communist liberal soy boy would.

        /s

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    So I know just because they are saying to bring back the R word and stop being woke, it’s still offensive to many but…

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    He contradicts himself even in his own wacky theories

    • Goodeye8@piefed.social
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      Considering wacky theories have a tendency to contradict each other (and itself) it would be far more impressive if his wacky theories weren’t contradictory.

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    I remember that when Roundup first came out, glyphosate was being held up as a brilliant example of herbicide design since it inhibits a vital metabolic pathway in plants that animals don’t have. They even claimed that the surfactants in Roundup were more harmful than the glyphosate itself. I guess that claim didn’t hold up too well.

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