“Falsehood flies, and truth comes limping after it, so that when men come to be undeceived, it is too late; the jest is over, and the tale hath had its effect: […] like a physician, who hath found out an infallible medicine, after the patient is dead.” —Jonathan Swift

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  • I’m somehow the literal exact opposite. I tried doing what you do for ages until I finally realized that it was torpedoing my motivation: if my locus of validation is already in other people, then by going around telling people upfront, I’m going to ride the high of unearned, unconditional validation and fail to get anything done. Then, once I want more, I recognize that the spotlight effect is a thing and either a) nobody is going to give me any more (or any more enough to matter – crumbs) or b) if I’ve promised some real consequential, eye-catching shit, the aim becomes avoiding immense shame for failing an expectation rather than earning validation for progressing a goal (which introduces stress – not the eustress kind – that haunts me at every step).

    I’ve found that SMART goals and ACT (too many acronyms, I know, but the latter has multiple meta-analyses about its effectiveness; I’ll live with it) have helped a lot.

    By mindfully setting goals according explicitly to my values, I can keep my locus of validation internal and reward myself every small step of the way. I might get external compliments along the way if it’s something noticeable, and if not, by the end, I can tell people what I did if I still want some supplemental, external validation.

    That’s not to say it makes me hyperproductive – just that it makes me functional, which is itself a goddamn miracle.




  • That’s the logic I was avoiding, because although it’s heuristically likely in real life that there’s only one culprit – and that you could get Bowl 9 with ingredients a, b, c, d, e, f, and g to show it’s definitely h or i if you don’t get sick – there’s also a chance you have diarrhea on that Bowl 9 and gain very little information. There’s no conclusiveness to the variable isolation, so it’s not sound from an information theoretic perspective.

    Actually, if you assume a comically unlikely worst-case scenario where all of the ingredients cause diarrhea, that sort of recursive algorithm might be the most amount of diarrhea you can get while still gaining information on each bowl.



  • They said they got diarrhea 8 times over 8 bowls, but they never said how many ingredients they used. (Edit: Fuck)

    Assume nine ingredients exist: a, b, c, d, e, f, g, h, i

    • Bowl 1: a + b + c + d + e + f + g + h + i: Diarrhea
    • Bowl 2: a: No diarrhea
    • Bowl 3: b: No diarrhea
    • Bowl 4: c: No diarrhea
    • Bowl 5: d: No diarrhea
    • Bowl 6: e: No diarrhea
    • Bowl 7: f: No diarrhea
    • Bowl 8: g: No diarrhea
    • Bowl 9: The one the OP is referring to “tomorrow”, which could have h, i, or h + i

    That’s a perfectly feasible if disgusting way to have a bowl from a poke truck if you’re doing it solely for an experiment. And that’s just one setup; there are more convoluted ones you could do that have fewer ingredients but mixed together so your bowls aren’t just one combination. I just chose the counterexample that’s easiest to construct mathematically and which logically uses the fewest steps to eliminate each ingredient.


    Edit: Wait, sorry, I misconstructed this because I misread it even while quoting it. Fuck, if they got diarrhea each time, then yeah, they’ve properly eliminated nothing.


  • We’ll take them at their word that they’ve truly narrowed the variables to tuna and house sauce (i.e. they’ve eaten a meal consisting of only tuna and house sauce and gotten sick, at least one of which has always been the underlying cause, but everything else they’ve eaten has been properly eliminated, and there are no ways outside of the food truck they could’ve gotten sick), and thus the only logical options are T, HS, or T+HS. The premise of the joke already relies on completely unrealistic simplifying assumptions, so we can too.


    Edit: We will not do this because it’s logically impossible based on the described experiment thus far. I’m an utter dipshit.


  • It’s one of them.

    Flawed assumption. It could be both. You’ll need to eat there at least two more times to find out, assuming each trial yields 100% certainty.


    Edit: I thought it should be obvious that we’re taking them absolutely at their word that they’ve properly isolated these two variables because this experiment exists inside a joke and never happened. The whole point of the joke is that the methodology is god awful and completely unrealistic, so questioning that they’ve truly isolated the variables is pointless.


    Edit 2: Wait, I totally misread the experiment setup. @TheYojimbo@lemmy.world is entirely correct that they’ve eliminated nothing if the experiment is totally defined by 8 bowls and 8 bouts of diarrhea. They’re still converging on at least one cause, but there could still be others. My career is ruined.



  • To be fair, in the Raimi Spider-Man world where he’s on his own (it’s implied Dr. Strange exists in a quick JJJ joke, but we can safely assume that was a tongue-in-cheek reference and not deep lore), NYC probably reasonably ought to make an exception to certain laws and give Spider-Man an anonymous stipend. Just with no bounty system – a flat, modest rate to pay his living expenses.

    Obviously it’s extrajudicial vigilantism, but it’s clear he’s doing nothing but good, and he probably saves taxpayers tens of millions at least for the numher of common criminals and supervillains he gets off the streets (we’ll ignore the nuclear fusion reaction that would’ve destroyed the city since no one but Peter and MJ can attest to it). Like just give the guy $50,000/year (~$85,000 in 2004, when the second movie was released and it was obvious to most he was a hero). If there’s a conflict with taking it out of the city’s budget, just raise the money through charity and let a trusted third-party disburse it. That’s one dollar for every 160 New Yorkers (~8 million at the time); I’m sure by 2004, Spider-Man has positively impacted enough New Yorkers’ lives for 1 out of every 160 of them to tip him a dollar, and that’s not even counting people outside of NYC that we never hear about.

    Imo, there’s no good reason in the Raimiverse that someone shouldn’t have successfully reached out to Spider-Man offering financial help in good faith. Not enough to make it glamorous or his main motivation but enough to keep him afloat. He could even keep working at the Daily Bugle for a while so it isn’t suspicious.









  • “Please explain it to me. Not the actual thing we’re talking about, because I actually don’t care to consider why I might be wrong, but about this batshit strawman argument I created.”

    Checking off all the boxes. If you want to talk to someone who’s whatever you tell them they are, then fuck off to ChatGPT, you clown.