• sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    6 days ago

    Personally, I’m excited to see what kind of biomes end up emerging on a melting/melted Antartica.

    Well ok, even I’m not pessimistic enough to think I’ll live to see that, in a way that its dramatically different than it is now, but hey, its like uh… a subbranch of speculative evolution, sorta.

    Maybe in a 100-200 years we have enough glacial loss and icemelt that West Antarctica might have parts where actual soil is regularly facing the sun.

    I think this is a ‘what if all the ice was gone’ map:

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      6 days ago

      How exactly were the names “East Antarctica” and “West Antarctica” in that map decided? What does “East” and “West” mean at the South Pole?

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        6 days ago

        Unless you stand perfectly at the south pr perfectly at the north point of either pole, there will always be an east and a west.

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        I googled it: map of antarctica with meridian lines labelled

        Image Source: Wikipedia

        Anything between lines of longitude 0° - 180° (0° is britain GMT, 180° is opposite side of earth) is EAST.

        Anything between 180° to 0 (you can think of as 360°) is WEST.

        Thus you have a western hemisphere, which i guess is just tthe americas and british Isles, and an eastern hemisphere, which i guess is most of afroeurasia and australia. This is just about the only way it could’ve worked, but as for where 0 and 180 went, it’s just arbitrary.

        I would’ve defined the Levant as the boundary between east and west hemisphere, instead.


        Fun Fact

        Eastern Antarctica’s ice sheet is older and more well developed than western antarctica. It will probably take longer to melt or collapse than the western half.

        Source: Discovering Antarctica

        Collapsible bonus image + source

        map of antarctica

        https://www.researchgate.net/figure/The-Antarctic-drainage-system-comprising-the-West-Antarctic-WA-ice-sheet-the-East_fig1_338109662

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      5 days ago

      This is one of those beliefs that can lead to a slippery slope. Yes, from an empirical perspective it needs to happen. But are we okay with how it’s likely to happen? Because the path we’re on has the honest and humble proletariat taking the brunt of the blow while the elite lap up the freshly available assets.

      Any attempt to alter that trajectory will probably lead to the same tribalistic and knee-jerk violence that breeds authoritarianism and racism and will not further the progressive cause of coexistence.

      So no matter what happens, we’ll likely end up in the same place a few hundred years later.

      Or maybe I’m wrong?

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    6 days ago

    “Most of us” is not “all of us”. Humanity will survive and the survivors will adapt.

    Nothing but positivity here.

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      Always the poor, disabled, marginalised, chronically ill, non first world, will be hit the hardest and die at the highest rates.

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              Yeah I would still be ill but it would be “oh that sucks and I can afford it” not “my survival is constantly on the line”.

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              you know what has been really funny all my life. laughing at the rich people in the hospital.

              oh wait, i’m not that much of a dick. money doesn’t keep them from being sick, strangely enough.

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                  sometimes yes sometimes no. sometimes they throw amazing treatments at you for free if you are willing to be in a trial and money can’t get you into those. trust me, i have tried to bribe my way into a few with money i didn’t have, and once the best connections in the world couldn’t get me in

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              Those dumbasses build their houses right on the beach, they will ultimately be hit very hard by climate change.

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        When it comes to climate change I’m not sure. We on the poorer side of the world already live in a constant crisis and adaptation and drastically changing our way to live might not hit us as hard as for people in first world countries who are used to a high dependence on industry and globalization. In fact, we’re already slowly adapting without most people even noticing.

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          100% but what you neglect to mention is the poorer world already has far higher mortality rates. This will only make it worse.

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          6 days ago

          I tend to agree that developped countries tend to underestimate the fragility of their systems. But then there still are simple facts like if you spend 10% of your income on food, you can afford significant food price hikes. If you spend 70% of income on food, then a small rise is already lethal.

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            5 days ago

            True, but on the other hand, if international trade diminishes, we’re on the food production side. The places who depend on imports will be hit much harder.

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      6 days ago

      The majority of other species wont survive or adapt though. And all because of something we caused. It’s not only humans sharing this Earth, even though a lot of us sure acts as if that is the case.