I think Patterns are pretty rad (as you can customize what’s installed in the Graphical Installer and hit the ground running. It’s pretty easy to uninstall and make certain packages taboo. I think the one annoyance with them is that it tells you every time that it won’t install those taboo packages. Personally, I find zypper to be pretty zippy; there are times it can be slow if I am downloading huge things like games or updating my laptop at the same time.
I think an update system intended for slower internet would be a challenging thing to make happen. As you’d have a lot of additional moving parts that would need to be balanced in a precise way or that house of cards would collapse quickly. Making a system either unresponsive or worse, broken. I feel it would be a workflow nightmare of a scale that would beggar belief and it would need constant attention from the maintainers…Something we’d probably not see in our lifetimes.
I do agree with your Flatpak grievances, as that is a valid thing to be concerned about, especially since you have slow internet. I would love if Flatpaks could share a singular library of dependencies (based on the currently installed Flatpaks). This is why I am very careful to use a small amount of them as there are a few apps I can’t install through the package manager or RPMs. They are handy for this reason alone, but need a lot of refinement before being a better packaging solution.
I’d love the concept of permacomputing to become a bigger thing…As that would mean longer support windows for hardware and operating systems that are highly efficient with the utilization of system resources. Not requiring users to constantly chase the latest upgrades every 10 or so years. I would love that gap to grow towards 30 or 40, systems that outlive their users before you need to upgrade hardware. Operating Systems that don’t have super fucking flashy stuff added all the time, just sensible refinements that aren’t going to tax a user’s hardware. You’d have to opt in for the flashy stuff, but the ability to make a choice and not have it forced on you is such a wonderful idea. This is why I like Linux so much, there is a lot of choice that can fit a person’s use case!
I think Patterns are pretty rad (as you can customize what’s installed in the Graphical Installer and hit the ground running. It’s pretty easy to uninstall and make certain packages taboo. I think the one annoyance with them is that it tells you every time that it won’t install those taboo packages. Personally, I find zypper to be pretty zippy; there are times it can be slow if I am downloading huge things like games or updating my laptop at the same time.
I think an update system intended for slower internet would be a challenging thing to make happen. As you’d have a lot of additional moving parts that would need to be balanced in a precise way or that house of cards would collapse quickly. Making a system either unresponsive or worse, broken. I feel it would be a workflow nightmare of a scale that would beggar belief and it would need constant attention from the maintainers…Something we’d probably not see in our lifetimes.
I do agree with your Flatpak grievances, as that is a valid thing to be concerned about, especially since you have slow internet. I would love if Flatpaks could share a singular library of dependencies (based on the currently installed Flatpaks). This is why I am very careful to use a small amount of them as there are a few apps I can’t install through the package manager or RPMs. They are handy for this reason alone, but need a lot of refinement before being a better packaging solution.
I’d love the concept of permacomputing to become a bigger thing…As that would mean longer support windows for hardware and operating systems that are highly efficient with the utilization of system resources. Not requiring users to constantly chase the latest upgrades every 10 or so years. I would love that gap to grow towards 30 or 40, systems that outlive their users before you need to upgrade hardware. Operating Systems that don’t have super fucking flashy stuff added all the time, just sensible refinements that aren’t going to tax a user’s hardware. You’d have to opt in for the flashy stuff, but the ability to make a choice and not have it forced on you is such a wonderful idea. This is why I like Linux so much, there is a lot of choice that can fit a person’s use case!