The West: My data and research is correct! All chinese sources are propaganda!
China: My data and research is correct! All western sources are propaganda!
They just have PMC’s in sub Saharan African countries to help ensure their investments in said countries and bring in their own labor as well not increasing local wealth except for the local warlords.
“Propaganda” is essentially spreading information (true or false) with the intention of steering views for political ends. China does admit to doing so, but this does not mean they aren’t more factual in their propaganda than the US Empire is.
How do you believe facts are verified? Through vetting, testing, and documenting evidence. Flimsy evidence like anecdotes or “eyewitness reports” are secondary to more hard evidence. An easy example is reporting on the Beijing Riots in 1989, where the west reported that 10,000 people were killed on the square itself, official Chinese sources reported that the square was evacuated peacefully but that clashes between the PLA and rioters around Beijing resulted in hundreds of deaths (largely the rioters but with dozens of PLA members lynched or firebombed), and now the official Chinese story is confirmed and is now largely reflected on Wikipedia.
So verified by the people who put out the propaganda in the first place. Your source “confirming” the story literally came from Beijing, and all the wikipedia page (Hardly an arbiter of objective truth in the first place) states is that the number is and has been in dispute. The source cited for that section of the Wikipedia article is also a Western source titled “Quelling the People: The Military Suppression of the Beijing Democracy Movement” published in 1998 by the Stanford University Press. Something tells me they weren’t pushing the CCP line.
So basically your “Easy example” just proves my point: While you chuckle about westerners just believing what western governments said, you’re just wholeheartedly endorsing the version of events published by the Chinese government. The west aren’t the only ones lying to you, bud, they’re just the only ones who will admit it years after the fact.
The West: My data and research is correct! All chinese sources are propaganda! China: My data and research is correct! All western sources are propaganda!
The US: drops 46 bombs a day! China: hasn’t been in a war for 46 years!
Westerners: these two states are equally bad for humanity(or one is significantly more evil, can you guess which one they think that is?)
They just have PMC’s in sub Saharan African countries to help ensure their investments in said countries and bring in their own labor as well not increasing local wealth except for the local warlords.
You’re correct. America is more evil than China right now. Wasn’t trying to say otherwise, but fortunately America isn’t the entire west…yet
Western countries are vassals of the US
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/oct/23/gough-whitlam-1975-coup-ended-australian-independence
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/9/10/infographic-us-military-presence-around-the-world-interactive
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coalition_of_the_willing_(Iraq_War)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio
The difference is that the later is almost always confirmed by the state department 25 years later because of the Freedom of Information Act.
And even then westerners choose not to believe it; but they’ll believe the Epstein files. 🤷♂️
And the Chinese not admitting to propaganda due to the lack of a FOIA-equivalent means they don’t do propaganda?
This is just a liar thinking that everyone else must also be lying
“Propaganda” is essentially spreading information (true or false) with the intention of steering views for political ends. China does admit to doing so, but this does not mean they aren’t more factual in their propaganda than the US Empire is.
More factual according to who?
How do you believe facts are verified? Through vetting, testing, and documenting evidence. Flimsy evidence like anecdotes or “eyewitness reports” are secondary to more hard evidence. An easy example is reporting on the Beijing Riots in 1989, where the west reported that 10,000 people were killed on the square itself, official Chinese sources reported that the square was evacuated peacefully but that clashes between the PLA and rioters around Beijing resulted in hundreds of deaths (largely the rioters but with dozens of PLA members lynched or firebombed), and now the official Chinese story is confirmed and is now largely reflected on Wikipedia.
So verified by the people who put out the propaganda in the first place. Your source “confirming” the story literally came from Beijing, and all the wikipedia page (Hardly an arbiter of objective truth in the first place) states is that the number is and has been in dispute. The source cited for that section of the Wikipedia article is also a Western source titled “Quelling the People: The Military Suppression of the Beijing Democracy Movement” published in 1998 by the Stanford University Press. Something tells me they weren’t pushing the CCP line.
So basically your “Easy example” just proves my point: While you chuckle about westerners just believing what western governments said, you’re just wholeheartedly endorsing the version of events published by the Chinese government. The west aren’t the only ones lying to you, bud, they’re just the only ones who will admit it years after the fact.