• 1984@lemmy.today
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    6 days ago

    A lot of dreamers here who never actually tried to grow something. A lot of YouTube video knowledge but no practical experience.

    Its damn difficult to grow your own food. I think buying canned goods and storing them is the best option for almost everyone instead of trying to grow your own.

    • dejova281@lemmy.world
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      5 days ago

      The best is community roles in a collective. If you try to do everything yourself you’ll fail but in specializing you’ll succeed. For produce, one neighbor specializes in tomatoes, the other cucumber, the other onions, etc etc… that’s how human society survived in tough times and that’s actually as a species how we’re supposed to operate. As a community. Another reason why everyone is so dang lonely and depressed. Anyways, I digress…

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              4 days ago

              I don’t even agree with this but I’m upvoting because I hope Lemmy becomes more open to hearing nuanced takes on this. Capitalism is complicated. It’s not God, it’s not Satan

              • Auth@lemmy.world
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                3 days ago

                I dont support everything in capitalism and I dislike the way Americans engage in it. But i do like it as an economic engine and a way for people to build things and shape their communities. The idea of someone being unable to own a store and sell goods and services is very sad to me.

    • hydroxycotton@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      6 days ago

      As someone who has been trying to grow tomatoes in containers for about 10 years, I can confirm that it really is difficult. It took me about 5 years to achieve fairly consistent results and get the hang of properly amending the soil, planting correctly, watering, pruning etc. And I still have years where the production is really low, largely due to fungal diseases.

      • mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca
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        5 days ago

        see what you should have done is just toss some rotten ones onto your driveway or behind the shed and ignored them and next year you’d have had the biggest baddest bitchingest tomato plants you’d ever seen

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    5 days ago

    Good thing my country exports 90% of its agricultural produce, so if we start getting hungry then we’ll just export a bit less.

    (We learned the hard way a long time ago when we ran out of potatoes.)

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      5 days ago

      Ireland was exporting food during the potato famine.

      Don’t assume your food won’t continue to be sold overseas if the growers/wholesalers can make more money that way.

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        5 days ago

        Ireland was exporting food during the potato famine.

        *Britian was exporting food from Ireland during the famine.

  • cogitase@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    6 days ago

    Natural gas is used to produce hydrogen, which is then used in the Haber-Bosch process to produce ammonia from nitrogen in the atmosphere. Only about 6% of natural gas is used to produce hydrogen, so even if the price were to rise substantially, we could divert natural gas from other uses and have plenty for making ammonia. We also have other ways of producing hydrogen, it’s just that natural gas is more established.

    PEM electrolyzers paired with cheap solar in countries with high insolation can now produce hydrogen for less than the cost of natural gas, but we’re only recently starting to see the construction of the large-scale green ammonia plants needed to accomplish this. Egypt is currently constructing a 100-MW green ammonia plant powered by solar energy. Even if you didn’t have enough PEM eletrolyzers you could still just pass current through some salt water and produce hydrogen, albeit much less efficiently.

    It’s not going to be a catastrophic issue.

    • Rusty@lemmy.ca
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      6 days ago

      Fun fact: Fritz Haber, the German guy that invented the Haber-Bosch process is the same Fritz Haber that developed a way to use the chlorine gas in chemical warfare. He was personally overseeing its effect in the battle of Ypres.